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Fantasy » alt.fan.harry-potter » [OT] Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed.
| [OT] Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223534] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 16:44 |
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So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
I wish I could shoot someone and then get them to apologize to me about
it. What was the guy afraid of? Cheney might shoot him again?
-Aaron
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| Re: [OT] Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223545 ] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 19:47 |
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"Aaron" <aaronsan [at] msn.com> wrote in message
news:1140709442.039989.181770 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
> trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
> like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
> administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
> have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
>
> I wish I could shoot someone and then get them to apologize to me about
> it. What was the guy afraid of? Cheney might shoot him again?
>
> -Aaron
I'd rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride in a car with Ted Kennedy!
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223546 ] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 19:53 |
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Justin Sane wrote:
> "Aaron" <aaronsan [at] msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1140709442.039989.181770 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
> > trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
> > like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
> > administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
> > have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
> >
> > I wish I could shoot someone and then get them to apologize to me about
> > it. What was the guy afraid of? Cheney might shoot him again?
> >
> > -Aaron
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> I'd rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride in a car with Ted Kennedy!
You don't have to worry about Ted Kennedy unless a) he is driving and
b) you're near water.
Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223549 ] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 20:16 |
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Aaron F. Bourque wrote:
> Justin Sane wrote:
> > "Aaron" <aaronsan [at] msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:1140709442.039989.181770 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
> > > trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
> > > like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
> > > administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
> > > have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
> > >
> > > I wish I could shoot someone and then get them to apologize to me about
> > > it. What was the guy afraid of? Cheney might shoot him again?
> > >
> > > -Aaron
> >
> > I'd rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride in a car with Ted Kennedy!
>
> You don't have to worry about Ted Kennedy unless a) he is driving and
> b) you're near water.
>
Not to mention c) female and d) not married to said Kennedy at the
time.
Neil Anderson
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223550 ] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 20:29 |
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Aaron wrote:
> So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
> trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
> like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
> administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
> have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
Is there a reason this is posted in the 24 newsgroup?
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223551 ] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 20:32 |
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"Joe Attardi" <jattardi [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140722996.087862.126380 [at] i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Aaron wrote:
>> So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
>> trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
>> like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
>> administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
>> have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
>
> Is there a reason this is posted in the 24 newsgroup?
because it's boring?
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223553 ] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 21:15 |
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, "Justin
Sane" <justinsane [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
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>"Joe Attardi" <jattardi [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1140722996.087862.126380 [at] i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Aaron wrote:
>>> So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
>>> trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
>>> like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
>>> administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
>>> have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
>>
>> Is there a reason this is posted in the 24 newsgroup?
>
>because it's boring?
*puts on theory hat*
In 24 hours it'll all be forgotten.
Ilya the Recusant
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"Asshole" has a special place in my childhood, the point at which I
first learned that typical Americans were assholes.
- C&J
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| Re: [OT] Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223554 ] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 21:37 |
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Aaron wrote:
> So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
> trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
> like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
> administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
> have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
>
> I wish I could shoot someone and then get them to apologize to me about
> it. What was the guy afraid of? Cheney might shoot him again?
>
> -Aaron
>
People do realize that hunting accidents happen all the time, right?
This is just another one... no big deal. Except to the media, for some
reason...
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223555 ] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 22:30 |
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John Cocktosen wrote:
> Aaron wrote:
> > So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
> > trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
> > like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
> > administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
> > have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
> >
> > I wish I could shoot someone and then get them to apologize to me about
> > it. What was the guy afraid of? Cheney might shoot him again?
> >
> > -Aaron
>
> People do realize that hunting accidents happen all the time, right?
> This is just another one... no big deal. Except to the media, for some
> reason...
That reason being: CHeneY SI evVIl!!! ShooTS in CoDl BRUD!!!
And other stupid things.
Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223563 ] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 22:56 |
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John Cocktosen wrote:
> People do realize that hunting accidents happen all the time, right?
> This is just another one... no big deal. Except to the media, for some
> reason...
Remind me to never to go hunting, then. If, on a hunting trip, you
were to shoot me, or I were to shoot you, I would regard either as a
Big Deal, and I hope you would feel the same. However, a major tragedy
for you or me would probably not be "news" because we are not public
figures.
Cheney, however, is Vice-President, and could become president if, for
instance, George Bush were to go on a hunting trip with someone like
yourself. That makes Cheney important, and makes what happens to him,
and what he does, news.
But what Aaron found remarkable was not the fact that a hunting
accident occurred, but that the shooting victim apologized to the man
who shot him. I agree, that is, by normal standards, pretty bizarre.
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223571 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 00:11 |
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Joe Attardi wrote:
> Aaron wrote:
>
>>So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
>>trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
>>like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
>>administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
>>have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
>
>
> Is there a reason this is posted in the 24 newsgroup?
>
Yup - we are inbetween bopth movies and books and are running out of
crazy impossible ideas for what will happen next. So - someone decided
to point out that Riddle went on a hunting trip and shot a death eater -
who apologized for getting in the way of Riddle's bullets = or something
like that!
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| STNADARD ANSWER #21 [message #223588 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 02:56 |
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"Please take your ranting to a newsgroup that cares. alt.fan.harry-
potter is not one of these."
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| Re: STNADARD ANSWER #21 [message #223598 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 03:38 |
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, John
VanSickle <evilsnack [at] earthlink.net> wrote:
>"Please take your ranting to a newsgroup that cares. alt.fan.harry-
>potter is not one of these."
STNADARD: The bohemian saint of rambling internet postings, who was
last seen cross-posting nazi slash-fic between alt.fan.furry and
talk.origins.
Ilya the Recusant
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"Asshole" has a special place in my childhood, the point at which I
first learned that typical Americans were assholes.
- C&J
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www.livejournal.com/users/ohilya
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223611 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 04:38 |
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karnak17 [at] cs.com wrote:
> John Cocktosen wrote:
> > People do realize that hunting accidents happen all the time, right?
> > This is just another one... no big deal. Except to the media, for some
> > reason...
>
> Remind me to never to go hunting, then. If, on a hunting trip, you
> were to shoot me, or I were to shoot you, I would regard either as a
> Big Deal, and I hope you would feel the same. However, a major tragedy
> for you or me would probably not be "news" because we are not public
> figures.
With a *bullet*, maybe. But they were hunting with *shot*. It's half a
step up from a BB pellet. The only real difference is that a BB almost
never penetrates skin, while shot much more often does.
> Cheney, however, is Vice-President, and could become president if, for
> instance, George Bush were to go on a hunting trip with someone like
> yourself. That makes Cheney important, and makes what happens to him,
> and what he does, news.
Shot doesn't kill nearly as often as . . . you seem to think.
> But what Aaron found remarkable was not the fact that a hunting
> accident occurred, but that the shooting victim apologized to the man
> who shot him. I agree, that is, by normal standards, pretty bizarre.
He didn't apologize for *getting shot*, he apologized to Cheney for all
the media attention. Which isn't his fault, but whatever.
Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223629 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 10:33 |
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, "Aaron F.
Bourque" <aaronbourque [at] aol.com> wrote:
>karnak17 [at] cs.com wrote:
>He didn't apologize for *getting shot*, he apologized to Cheney for all
>the media attention. Which isn't his fault, but whatever.
Did he really?
*shoots USA*
>Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque
Ilya the Recusant
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"Asshole" has a special place in my childhood, the point at which I
first learned that typical Americans were assholes.
- C&J
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www.livejournal.com/users/ohilya
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| Re: STNADARD ANSWER #21 [message #223633 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 10:55 |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:56:43 GMT, John VanSickle
<evilsnack [at] earthlink.net> wrote:
>"Please take your ranting to a newsgroup that cares. alt.fan.harry-
>potter is not one of these."
And this would be in reply to which post?
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223645 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 13:09 |
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223652 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 15:16 |
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, IMS
<iscott [at] twcny.rr.com> wrote:
>On 23 Feb 2006 19:38:59 -0800, "Aaron F. Bourque" <aaronbourque [at] aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>karnak17 [at] cs.com wrote:
>>> John Cocktosen wrote:
>>> > People do realize that hunting accidents happen all the time, right?
>>> > This is just another one... no big deal. Except to the media, for some
>>> > reason...
>>>
>>> Remind me to never to go hunting, then. If, on a hunting trip, you
>>> were to shoot me, or I were to shoot you, I would regard either as a
>>> Big Deal, and I hope you would feel the same. However, a major tragedy
>>> for you or me would probably not be "news" because we are not public
>>> figures.
>>
>>With a *bullet*, maybe. But they were hunting with *shot*. It's half a
>>step up from a BB pellet. The only real difference is that a BB almost
>>never penetrates skin, while shot much more often does.
>>
>>> Cheney, however, is Vice-President, and could become president if, for
>>> instance, George Bush were to go on a hunting trip with someone like
>>> yourself. That makes Cheney important, and makes what happens to him,
>>> and what he does, news.
>>
>>Shot doesn't kill nearly as often as . . . you seem to think.
>>
>>> But what Aaron found remarkable was not the fact that a hunting
>>> accident occurred, but that the shooting victim apologized to the man
>>> who shot him. I agree, that is, by normal standards, pretty bizarre.
>>
>>He didn't apologize for *getting shot*, he apologized to Cheney for all
>>the media attention. Which isn't his fault, but whatever.
>>
>>Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque
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>What is amazing to me is why the media would hound the White House to
>disclose personal medical information about the shooting victim before
>even he or his family receive it. Besides that news should come from
>the victim's representatives themselves, not the White House. The media
>were really on a feeding frenzy with this one.
The Vice President *shot* someone.
No shit they'd be all over this.
Ilya the Recusant
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"Asshole" has a special place in my childhood, the point at which I
first learned that typical Americans were assholes.
- C&J
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www.livejournal.com/users/ohilya
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223659 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 16:17 |
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Joe Attardi wrote:
> Aaron wrote:
> > So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
> > trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
> > like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
> > administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
> > have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
>
> Is there a reason this is posted in the 24 newsgroup?
I put an [OT] at the beginning, indicating that it is off-topic, but I
don't see it there now. Does Google clip those off now? Bastards.
-Aaron
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223661 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 16:24 |
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Aaron F. Bourque wrote:
> karnak17 [at] cs.com wrote:
> > John Cocktosen wrote:
> > > People do realize that hunting accidents happen all the time, right?
> > > This is just another one... no big deal. Except to the media, for some
> > > reason...
> >
> > Remind me to never to go hunting, then. If, on a hunting trip, you
> > were to shoot me, or I were to shoot you, I would regard either as a
> > Big Deal, and I hope you would feel the same. However, a major tragedy
> > for you or me would probably not be "news" because we are not public
> > figures.
>
> With a *bullet*, maybe. But they were hunting with *shot*. It's half a
> step up from a BB pellet. The only real difference is that a BB almost
> never penetrates skin, while shot much more often does.
It's a big deal any way you slice it, Aaron. He admitted that he shot
too low, and what if the poor guy had taken shot directly in his face
and eyes? I presume he would then be blinded. Not a big deal?
Aaron, when I talk to you, sometimes I feel like I'm just talking to
myself. =)
> > Cheney, however, is Vice-President, and could become president if, for
> > instance, George Bush were to go on a hunting trip with someone like
> > yourself. That makes Cheney important, and makes what happens to him,
> > and what he does, news.
>
> Shot doesn't kill nearly as often as . . . you seem to think.
But it could easily have permanently maimed the poor schmuck.
> > But what Aaron found remarkable was not the fact that a hunting
> > accident occurred, but that the shooting victim apologized to the man
> > who shot him. I agree, that is, by normal standards, pretty bizarre.
>
> He didn't apologize for *getting shot*, he apologized to Cheney for all
> the media attention.
That's what I said, and the other poster didn't say the apology was for
"being shot" either. He apologized for all the trouble his getting shot
caused Cheney. I do not see how this is any better than just
apologizing for getting shot in the first place. It's ridiculous,
Aaron.
> Which isn't his fault, but whatever.
No, not "whatever." That's exactly the point. He didn't do anything
wrong, and he didn't alert the media. He shouldn't be apologizing for
anything. At best, he did need to say that he "regrets" the media
attention this has caused, but he shouldn't *apologize* for a damn
thing.
> Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque
-Aaron
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223662 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 16:26 |
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Thom Madura wrote:
> Joe Attardi wrote:
> > Aaron wrote:
> >
> >>So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
> >>trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
> >>like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
> >>administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
> >>have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
> >
> >
> > Is there a reason this is posted in the 24 newsgroup?
> >
> Yup - we are inbetween bopth movies and books and are running out of
> crazy impossible ideas for what will happen next. So - someone decided
> to point out that Riddle went on a hunting trip and shot a death eater -
> who apologized for getting in the way of Riddle's bullets = or something
> like that!
That would be a good excuse for posting it in the Harry Potter ng, but
he was asking about the 24 ng. I posted to the ngs that I frequent.
Again, to all ngs involved, I apologize that there was no indication
this thread was off-topic in the title. Somehow, Google clipped the
[OT] I put at the beginning.
-Aaron
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223665 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 17:32 |
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On 2/23/06 1:29 PM, in article
1140722996.087862.126380 [at] i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Joe Attardi"
<jattardi [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> Aaron wrote:
>> So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
>> trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
>> like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
>> administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
>> have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
>
> Is there a reason this is posted in the 24 newsgroup?
>
Naw. Our boy Aaron is trying to prove his prowess by cross-posting a bunch
of bullshit since someone pointed out he rersembled a carp on the hook.
Now, he's trying to troll for who has the biggest 'rod'.
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Fr, 24 Februar 2006 17:54 |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:32:21 -0600, George Kerby wrote
(in article <C0249132.28749%ghost_topper [at] hotmail.com>):
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> On 2/23/06 1:29 PM, in article
> 1140722996.087862.126380 [at] i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Joe Attardi"
> <jattardi [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Aaron wrote:
>>> So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
>>> trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
>>> like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
>>> administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
>>> have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
>>
>> Is there a reason this is posted in the 24 newsgroup?
>>
> Naw. Our boy Aaron is trying to prove his prowess by cross-posting a bunch
> of bullshit since someone pointed out he rersembled a carp on the hook.
>
> Now, he's trying to troll for who has the biggest 'rod'.
>
Oh for fuck's sake, he put [OT] in his subject line. If you don't want
to read it, don't.
>
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Fr, 24 Februar 2006 17:54 |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:17:19 -0600, Aaron wrote
(in article <1140794239.384829.218020 [at] e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>):
>
> Joe Attardi wrote:
>> Aaron wrote:
>>> So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
>>> trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
>>> like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
>>> administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
>>> have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
>>
>> Is there a reason this is posted in the 24 newsgroup?
>
> I put an [OT] at the beginning, indicating that it is off-topic, but I
> don't see it there now. Does Google clip those off now? Bastards.
>
> -Aaron
>
The [OT] came through just fine, Aaron.
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Herb
"Everything is controlled by a small evil group to which,
unfortunately, no one we know belongs."
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| [OT] Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223678 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 18:51 |
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In article <1140794645.015888.238660 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Aaron
says...
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<<SNIP>>
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>That's what I said, and the other poster didn't say the apology was for
>"being shot" either. He apologized for all the trouble his getting shot
>caused Cheney. I do not see how this is any better than just
>apologizing for getting shot in the first place. It's ridiculous,
>Aaron.
Seems smart, to me. He said the *exact* words that needed to be said to get the
press to leave him alone and for the story to die. It's likely that he had
professional help in crafting his message as it was perfect and effective.
*Why* he wanted the story to die is obvious. He's a private citizen who doesn't
want all the fuss and bother. He is old, he is rich, and he doesn't need it.
After the first day, the real story wasn't the accident itself, but the media
hoopla and the exposition of the differences in psychology between republicans
and democrats.
If the democrats were more like republicans, they would have kept quiet about
the accident while ordering one of their think tanks to explore whether the
millions spent on advertising to increase the democratic vote count could be
better spent on getting more republicans to go hunting. As it was, their
reaction only reinforced the 'womanly handwringer' image put forth by Ann
Coulter.
<<SNIP REST>>
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Joe
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223679 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 19:26 |
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Joe Curwen wrote:
> In article <1140794645.015888.238660 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Aaron
> says...
> >
> >
> <<SNIP>>
> >
> >That's what I said, and the other poster didn't say the apology was for
> >"being shot" either. He apologized for all the trouble his getting shot
> >caused Cheney. I do not see how this is any better than just
> >apologizing for getting shot in the first place. It's ridiculous,
> >Aaron.
>
>
> Seems smart, to me. He said the *exact* words that needed to be said to get the
> press to leave him alone and for the story to die. It's likely that he had
> professional help in crafting his message as it was perfect and effective.
He may indeed have said words that made the story die quickly, but I
don't see how apologizing to the VP necessary at all, and I certainly
don't see that the VP deserves an apology. Can you explain that part of
your argument?
> *Why* he wanted the story to die is obvious. He's a private citizen who doesn't
> want all the fuss and bother. He is old, he is rich, and he doesn't need it.
Of course.
> After the first day, the real story wasn't the accident itself, but the media
> hoopla and the exposition of the differences in psychology between republicans
> and democrats.
I didn't like how anyone handled it. Frankly, I didn't give a shit
(other than the chuckle factor) about Cheney shooting someone while
hunting. It happens. Move on. I only got truly interested when the guy
who was SHOT apologized to the VP. Even then, it was more curiousity
than serious interest.
> If the democrats were more like republicans, they would have kept quiet about
> the accident while ordering one of their think tanks to explore whether the
> millions spent on advertising to increase the democratic vote count could be
> better spent on getting more republicans to go hunting. As it was, their
> reaction only reinforced the 'womanly handwringer' image put forth by Ann
> Coulter.
I didn't like their reaction, but I didn't like Cheney's and Bush's
reaction either. It's all calculated. There's no sincerity left in
government.
> Joe
-Aaron
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223680 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 19:29 |
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Herb Schaltegger wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:32:21 -0600, George Kerby wrote
> (in article <C0249132.28749%ghost_topper [at] hotmail.com>):
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/23/06 1:29 PM, in article
> > 1140722996.087862.126380 [at] i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Joe Attardi"
> > <jattardi [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Aaron wrote:
> >>> So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
> >>> trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
> >>> like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
> >>> administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
> >>> have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
> >>
> >> Is there a reason this is posted in the 24 newsgroup?
> >>
> > Naw. Our boy Aaron is trying to prove his prowess by cross-posting a bunch
> > of bullshit since someone pointed out he rersembled a carp on the hook.
> >
> > Now, he's trying to troll for who has the biggest 'rod'.
> >
>
> Oh for fuck's sake, he put [OT] in his subject line. If you don't want
> to read it, don't.
Isn't it interesting that every time facts are stated which make a
Republican look bad, they call it "bullshit?" If they had any
credibility to lose...
> Herb
-Aaron
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| Re: [OT] Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223682 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 19:45 |
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, Joe Curwen
<jcurwen [at] freeonline.com> wrote:
>In article <1140794645.015888.238660 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Aaron
>says...
>>
>>
><<SNIP>>
>>
>>That's what I said, and the other poster didn't say the apology was for
>>"being shot" either. He apologized for all the trouble his getting shot
>>caused Cheney. I do not see how this is any better than just
>>apologizing for getting shot in the first place. It's ridiculous,
>>Aaron.
>
>
>Seems smart, to me. He said the *exact* words that needed to be said to get the
>press to leave him alone and for the story to die. It's likely that he had
>professional help in crafting his message as it was perfect and effective.
>
>*Why* he wanted the story to die is obvious. He's a private citizen who doesn't
>want all the fuss and bother. He is old, he is rich, and he doesn't need it.
>
>After the first day, the real story wasn't the accident itself, but the media
>hoopla and the exposition of the differences in psychology between republicans
>and democrats.
>
>If the democrats were more like republicans, they would have kept quiet about
>the accident while ordering one of their think tanks to explore whether the
>millions spent on advertising to increase the democratic vote count could be
>better spent on getting more republicans to go hunting. As it was, their
>reaction only reinforced the 'womanly handwringer' image put forth by Ann
>Coulter.
>
><<SNIP REST>>
You Seppos are weird.
Ilya the Recusant
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"Asshole" has a special place in my childhood, the point at which I
first learned that typical Americans were assholes.
- C&J
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223683 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 19:46 |
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, Herb
Schaltegger <herb.schaltegger [at] NOSPAMgmail.com.INVALID> wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:17:19 -0600, Aaron wrote
>(in article <1140794239.384829.218020 [at] e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>):
>
>>
>> Joe Attardi wrote:
>>> Aaron wrote:
>>>> So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
>>>> trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
>>>> like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
>>>> administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
>>>> have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
>>>
>>> Is there a reason this is posted in the 24 newsgroup?
>>
>> I put an [OT] at the beginning, indicating that it is off-topic, but I
>> don't see it there now. Does Google clip those off now? Bastards.
>>
>> -Aaron
>>
>
>The [OT] came through just fine, Aaron.
*blink*
On my end it came through as 'Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed.'
Perhaps I have a setting set to off where it ought not to be?
Ilya the Recusant
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"Asshole" has a special place in my childhood, the point at which I
first learned that typical Americans were assholes.
- C&J
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223684 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 19:48 |
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, "Aaron"
<aaronsan [at] msn.com> wrote:
>
>Herb Schaltegger wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:32:21 -0600, George Kerby wrote
>> (in article <C0249132.28749%ghost_topper [at] hotmail.com>):
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2/23/06 1:29 PM, in article
>> > 1140722996.087862.126380 [at] i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Joe Attardi"
>> > <jattardi [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Aaron wrote:
>> >>> So Dick Cheney shoots a man, and then that man apologizes for all the
>> >>> trouble his getting shot has caused Cheney. Wow. Just...wow. I don't
>> >>> like Cheney, in fact I think he's the worst member of the Bush
>> >>> administration, which is the worst administration since Nixon's, but I
>> >>> have to hand it to him for his mindboggling power.
>> >>
>> >> Is there a reason this is posted in the 24 newsgroup?
>> >>
>> > Naw. Our boy Aaron is trying to prove his prowess by cross-posting a bunch
>> > of bullshit since someone pointed out he rersembled a carp on the hook.
>> >
>> > Now, he's trying to troll for who has the biggest 'rod'.
>> >
>>
>> Oh for fuck's sake, he put [OT] in his subject line. If you don't want
>> to read it, don't.
>
>Isn't it interesting that every time facts are stated which make a
>Republican look bad, they call it "bullshit?" If they had any
>credibility to lose...
*snigger*
My map of the US political parties:
Republicans: Humourless gerontocrats
Democrats: Faggot humpers & lovers
Green Party: Marijhuana Grocers
Independent: No one cares
>> Herb
>
>-Aaron
Ilya the Recusant
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"Asshole" has a special place in my childhood, the point at which I
first learned that typical Americans were assholes.
- C&J
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223685 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 19:49 |
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In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, "Aaron"
<aaronsan [at] msn.com> wrote:
>
>Joe Curwen wrote:
>> In article <1140794645.015888.238660 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Aaron
>> says...
>> >
>> >
>> <<SNIP>>
>> >
>> >That's what I said, and the other poster didn't say the apology was for
>> >"being shot" either. He apologized for all the trouble his getting shot
>> >caused Cheney. I do not see how this is any better than just
>> >apologizing for getting shot in the first place. It's ridiculous,
>> >Aaron.
>>
>>
>> Seems smart, to me. He said the *exact* words that needed to be said to get the
>> press to leave him alone and for the story to die. It's likely that he had
>> professional help in crafting his message as it was perfect and effective.
>
>He may indeed have said words that made the story die quickly, but I
>don't see how apologizing to the VP necessary at all, and I certainly
>don't see that the VP deserves an apology. Can you explain that part of
>your argument?
>
>> *Why* he wanted the story to die is obvious. He's a private citizen who doesn't
>> want all the fuss and bother. He is old, he is rich, and he doesn't need it.
>
>Of course.
>
>> After the first day, the real story wasn't the accident itself, but the media
>> hoopla and the exposition of the differences in psychology between republicans
>> and democrats.
>
>I didn't like how anyone handled it. Frankly, I didn't give a shit
>(other than the chuckle factor) about Cheney shooting someone while
>hunting. It happens. Move on. I only got truly interested when the guy
>who was SHOT apologized to the VP. Even then, it was more curiousity
>than serious interest.
>
>> If the democrats were more like republicans, they would have kept quiet about
>> the accident while ordering one of their think tanks to explore whether the
>> millions spent on advertising to increase the democratic vote count could be
>> better spent on getting more republicans to go hunting. As it was, their
>> reaction only reinforced the 'womanly handwringer' image put forth by Ann
>> Coulter.
>
>I didn't like their reaction, but I didn't like Cheney's and Bush's
>reaction either. It's all calculated. There's no sincerity left in
>government.
So, like, is Cheney getting fined or anything?
>> Joe
>
>-Aaron
Ilya the Recusant
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"Asshole" has a special place in my childhood, the point at which I
first learned that typical Americans were assholes.
- C&J
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223691 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 20:12 |
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Ilya the Recusant wrote:
> So, like, is Cheney getting fined or anything?
I don't think so. The police closed the investigation the day of the
accident, and there's been no mention of a fine.
Of course, all the news can say about it is "ZOMG, CHenEY ShOTED a
GUY!! EvRiLL!!"
Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223715 ] |
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223718 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 23:15 |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:01:38 -0600, IMS wrote
(in article <5h0vv1h0d96q76niitfrjsg7q79mh1lnv1 [at] 4ax.com>):
>
> Read the previous message. It's *buckshot*
Here, why don't you stand still and get shot with buckshot and then see
if you have that same opinion. Furthermore, as has already been
pointed out, the man could easily have lost an eye (or both eyes),
suffered permanent hearing loss if he'd gotten hit in the ear, etc.
Cheney violated any number of firearms safety rules, even discounting
rumors he'd been drinking. And I say this as someone who owns a couple
of firearms myself. Don't be such a fucking apologist for Cheney's
stupidity.
--
Herb
"Everything is controlled by a small evil group to which,
unfortunately, no one we know belongs."
~Anonymous
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223726 ] |
Sa, 25 Februar 2006 00:25 |
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IMS <iscott [at] twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:16:22 -0500, Ilya the Recusant <qin [at] deadspam.net>
> wrote:
>
>> In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, IMS
>> <iscott [at] twcny.rr.com> wrote:
>>> On 23 Feb 2006 19:38:59 -0800, "Aaron F. Bourque" <aaronbourque [at] aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> karnak17 [at] cs.com wrote:
>>>>> John Cocktosen wrote:
>>>>>> People do realize that hunting accidents happen all the time, right?
>>>>>> This is just another one... no big deal. Except to the media, for
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> reason...
>>>>>
>>>>> Remind me to never to go hunting, then. If, on a hunting trip, you
>>>>> were to shoot me, or I were to shoot you, I would regard either as a
>>>>> Big Deal, and I hope you would feel the same. However, a major
>>>>> tragedy
>>>>> for you or me would probably not be "news" because we are not public
>>>>> figures.
>>>>
>>>> With a *bullet*, maybe. But they were hunting with *shot*. It's half a
>>>> step up from a BB pellet. The only real difference is that a BB almost
>>>> never penetrates skin, while shot much more often does.
>>>>
>>>>> Cheney, however, is Vice-President, and could become president if, for
>>>>> instance, George Bush were to go on a hunting trip with someone like
>>>>> yourself. That makes Cheney important, and makes what happens to him,
>>>>> and what he does, news.
>>>>
>>>> Shot doesn't kill nearly as often as . . . you seem to think.
>>>>
>>>>> But what Aaron found remarkable was not the fact that a hunting
>>>>> accident occurred, but that the shooting victim apologized to the man
>>>>> who shot him. I agree, that is, by normal standards, pretty bizarre.
>>>>
>>>> He didn't apologize for *getting shot*, he apologized to Cheney for all
>>>> the media attention. Which isn't his fault, but whatever.
>>>>
>>>> Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque
>>>
>>> What is amazing to me is why the media would hound the White House to
>>> disclose personal medical information about the shooting victim before
>>> even he or his family receive it. Besides that news should come from
>>> the victim's representatives themselves, not the White House. The media
>>> were really on a feeding frenzy with this one.
>>
>> The Vice President *shot* someone.
>>
>> No shit they'd be all over this.
>>
>>
>
>
> Read the previous message. It's *buckshot*
Bird shot, not buckshot.
--
mgraves
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223728 ] |
Sa, 25 Februar 2006 00:22 |
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On 2/24/06 4:01 PM, in article 5h0vv1h0d96q76niitfrjsg7q79mh1lnv1 [at] 4ax.com,
"IMS" <iscott [at] twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:16:22 -0500, Ilya the Recusant <qin [at] deadspam.net>
> wrote:
>
>> In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, IMS
>> <iscott [at] twcny.rr.com> wrote:
>>> On 23 Feb 2006 19:38:59 -0800, "Aaron F. Bourque" <aaronbourque [at] aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> karnak17 [at] cs.com wrote:
>>>>> John Cocktosen wrote:
>>>>>> People do realize that hunting accidents happen all the time, right?
>>>>>> This is just another one... no big deal. Except to the media, for some
>>>>>> reason...
>>>>>
>>>>> Remind me to never to go hunting, then. If, on a hunting trip, you
>>>>> were to shoot me, or I were to shoot you, I would regard either as a
>>>>> Big Deal, and I hope you would feel the same. However, a major tragedy
>>>>> for you or me would probably not be "news" because we are not public
>>>>> figures.
>>>>
>>>> With a *bullet*, maybe. But they were hunting with *shot*. It's half a
>>>> step up from a BB pellet. The only real difference is that a BB almost
>>>> never penetrates skin, while shot much more often does.
>>>>
>>>>> Cheney, however, is Vice-President, and could become president if, for
>>>>> instance, George Bush were to go on a hunting trip with someone like
>>>>> yourself. That makes Cheney important, and makes what happens to him,
>>>>> and what he does, news.
>>>>
>>>> Shot doesn't kill nearly as often as . . . you seem to think.
>>>>
>>>>> But what Aaron found remarkable was not the fact that a hunting
>>>>> accident occurred, but that the shooting victim apologized to the man
>>>>> who shot him. I agree, that is, by normal standards, pretty bizarre.
>>>>
>>>> He didn't apologize for *getting shot*, he apologized to Cheney for all
>>>> the media attention. Which isn't his fault, but whatever.
>>>>
>>>> Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque
>>>
>>> What is amazing to me is why the media would hound the White House to
>>> disclose personal medical information about the shooting victim before
>>> even he or his family receive it. Besides that news should come from
>>> the victim's representatives themselves, not the White House. The media
>>> were really on a feeding frenzy with this one.
>>
>> The Vice President *shot* someone.
>>
>> No shit they'd be all over this.
>>
>>
>
>
> Read the previous message. It's *buckshot*
>
>
Wrong! It's fukin' #8 BIRDSHOT.
About .1" ion diameter.
Buckshot would have taken his face off.
But it's a moot point to those who don't know shit about real hunting.
They are the same who don't know shit about friendships...
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| Re: STNADARD ANSWER #21 [message #223730 ] |
Sa, 25 Februar 2006 00:39 |
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Toon wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:56:43 GMT, John VanSickle
> <evilsnack [at] earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>"Please take your ranting to a newsgroup that cares. alt.fan.harry-
>>potter is not one of these."
>
> And this would be in reply to which post?
The one that started the whole thread.
Regards,
John
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| Re: STNADARD ANSWER #21 [message #223734 ] |
Sa, 25 Februar 2006 01:29 |
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John VanSickle escribió:
> Toon wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:56:43 GMT, John VanSickle
>> <evilsnack [at] earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Please take your ranting to a newsgroup that cares. alt.fan.harry-
>>> potter is not one of these."
>>
>> And this would be in reply to which post?
>
> The one that started the whole thread.
>
> Regards,
> John
I read the post ordered by date, and not in groups, so, I have no idea
which is (the one about the guy who shoot another one?)
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| Re: Now THAT'S power. I'm impressed. [message #223737 ] |
Sa, 25 Februar 2006 01:25 |
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In article <1140805564.323048.307700 [at] i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, Aaron
says...
>
>
>Joe Curwen wrote:
>> In article <1140794645.015888.238660 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Aaron
>> says...
>> >
>> >
>> <<SNIP>>
>> >
>> >That's what I said, and the other poster didn't say the apology was for
>> >"being shot" either. He apologized for all the trouble his getting shot
>> >caused Cheney. I do not see how this is any better than just
>> >apologizing for getting shot in the first place. It's ridiculous,
>> >Aaron.
>>
>>
>>Seems smart, to me. He said the *exact* words that needed to be said to get the
>> press to leave him alone and for the story to die. It's likely that he had
>> professional help in crafting his message as it was perfect and effective.
>
>He may indeed have said words that made the story die quickly, but I
>don't see how apologizing to the VP necessary at all, and I certainly
>don't see that the VP deserves an apology. Can you explain that part of
>your argument?
If he was completely sincere in his statements to the press then nobody who
wasn't there and knows him personally can explain it. He simply felt that Cheney
deserved it, and that's that. On the other hand, if his apology wasn't sincere
then my guess would be that it was necessary to get the press off his back
(which I further assume is why he spoke to the press in the first place). If
that is what he was doing, his apology was brilliant in as much as it made the
press the bad guy (which is the best and surest way to get them to go away). In
saying this, I don't claim to know if his apology was sincere or not.
>
>>*Why* he wanted the story to die is obvious. He's a private citizen who doesn't
>> want all the fuss and bother. He is old, he is rich, and he doesn't need it.
>
>Of course.
>
>> After the first day, the real story wasn't the accident itself, but the media
>>hoopla and the exposition of the differences in psychology between republicans
>> and democrats.
>
>I didn't like how anyone handled it. Frankly, I didn't give a shit
>(other than the chuckle factor) about Cheney shooting someone while
>hunting. It happens. Move on. I only got truly interested when the guy
>who was SHOT apologized to the VP. Even then, it was more curiousity
>than serious interest.
Fair enough. I am curious why you and others discussing this tend to emphasize
the word, "shot". It's never, 'the VP shot someone' its always, 'the VP *SHOT*
someone (pant pant) as if that is a peculiarly heinous way to hurt someone.
Getting shot hurts, it can maim you or even kill you, but so can a lot of other
things. If it was an accident, then it shouldn't matter so much that the
accident involved a gun as opposed to a car.
>
>> If the democrats were more like republicans, they would have kept quiet about
>> the accident while ordering one of their think tanks to explore whether the
>> millions spent on advertising to increase the democratic vote count could be
>> better spent on getting more republicans to go hunting. As it was, their
>> reaction only reinforced the 'womanly handwringer' image put forth by Ann
>> Coulter.
>
>I didn't like their reaction, but I didn't like Cheney's and Bush's
>reaction either. It's all calculated. There's no sincerity left in
>government.
>
You're wrong about that, at least partly. For example, they have sincerely not
raised my taxes in five years and they sincerely hope that the debt will force
privatization of social security and other programs in the future. But when it
comes to the press I see what you mean.
--
Joe
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| Re: STNADARD ANSWER #21 [message #223739 ] |
Sa, 25 Februar 2006 02:51 |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:29:47 -0500, drusilla <me [at] me.net> wrote:
>John VanSickle escribió:
>> Toon wrote:
>>> On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:56:43 GMT, John VanSickle
>>> <evilsnack [at] earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Please take your ranting to a newsgroup that cares. alt.fan.harry-
>>>> potter is not one of these."
>>>
>>> And this would be in reply to which post?
>>
>> The one that started the whole thread.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>
>I read the post ordered by date, and not in groups, so, I have no idea
>which is (the one about the guy who shoot another one?)
If you want a post to stay in the thread in all news readers don't
change the title. All three of your standard answers are a
non-sequitur to a large portion of the Usenet community, You didn't
keep enough of the original post to parse it easily out.
--
John Duncan Yoyo
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